Originally Posted by kaldaniels
I think if comparing WAR for the past 3 seasons they would be of similar value. I agree with the premise of Rick's post but in terms of comparing the 2 going forward I'm not too concerned with their 2007-2009 numbers.
The thing is I don't think they are or would be of similar value and it's why I don't agree with the original post. I like Longo but to me Votto is on another planet. I've experienced this exact argument about WAR around the 2007is 2008is seasons. I've argued none stop with Phillies fans when they said Chase Utley was as valuable as Albert Pujols, because their WAR's were similar. According to Fangraphs, they're technically right. From 2007-2009, Pujols averaged 8.8 WAR seasons vs. Utley who averaged 8.1 WAR seasons. Pretty similar technically but I don't know if anyone in their right mind, outside of Philadelphia, would objectively take Chase Utley over Pujols. Pujols was/is a transcendent player where Utley was a great player. No question Utley was great in his prime but he didn't change the way opponents played the game like Pujols did. Pujols was clearly the most dominant offensive player not only during that time frame but during the decade of the 00's.
What does it have to do with Votto? Well I view Votto as the same way right now. Longo is great and would love to have him on the Cardinals. However, he doesn't change the way opponents play the game like Votto does. This is something that WAR does not take into account. As much as I admire advanced stats, there are things that those stats cannot and will not be able to quantify.