Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_
IMO, what MLB did to Pete was appropriate. They kept him out of baseball. But I think this link between banishment from baseball and banishment from the hall needs to go. It's a museum celebrating the history of the game. And like it or not, Rose is a pretty major part of the history of the game. It's a Hall of FAME. Not a Hall of morals and ethics. If baseball decides to banish Clemens & Bonds from baseball for breaking the rules, I'm fine with that. But the Hall still needs to recognize what took place on the field. I don't want to read a world history book that leaves out Hitler just because he was a bad guy. That's what the Hall is attempting to do IMO.
Well, I agree, the HOF has become another way to punish players.. whether we agree with the reasoning or not, it's a punishment used. If anything, it's a statement of baseball's hypocracy. I remember and interview where Towers said that as the Padres GM, he knew Camminiti was juicing, but the Padres really didn't care.. He was putting up MVP seasons and selling tickets. No one cared until Camminiti died (and did they really care then? Or was that just crocodile tears)..
Heck, look at the punishment system today.. It was largely implemented only because Congress forced MLB to do it. You have guys like Manny Rammeriz who keep getting multiple chances. It's not unlike Steve Howe's drug use. In the end, the owners say it's cheating, but they condone it. When the player retires (or is at the end of their career), baseball suddenly become all moral about it.
When I was a kid, we used to play these board game war games. One guy wasn't particularly good at it, and he compensated by pushing a few extra tanks on to his home country when no one was looking. Sometimes he got caught, other times he didn't. We all knew he was "Cheating" but that was part of playing with him. We'd just laugh when we caught him. In a way, I think that's how the owners feel about steroid cheating.