Re: John Fay Abstains from HOF Voting to Avoid Casting Votes for Bonds and Clemens
Originally Posted by traderumor
I have a big problem with it.
He had 2/3 of his ABs in SF, 7 years in Pittsburgh, 15 in SF. He had just started hitting his prime when he left for the West Coast. I think you can infer the beginning of his PEDs usage as sometime once he went to SF, but I think it is fair to question any of his production, not just when his head got big. I'm not saying that is what you are using to mark when he started, but I think that is the common conception, and it begs the question regarding when he did actually start. Only God and Barry know.
I think he built his HOF credentials primarily in SF, where all of his production can be considered tainted, and therefore he should not be in the HOF. Plus, he's the poster child for the steroid scandal the same as Shoeless Joe and Pete are for gambling scandals.
If they let Bonds in, then the steroid impact on a career should not be considered for anyone.
Only one major leaguer had more WAR between 1986-1992 (the Pirates years) than Bonds. His name was Roger Clemens. As a Pirate, Bonds won 2 MVP awards while finishing second in another year. He won 3 gold gloves and 3 silver slugger awards as well. In other words, as a Pirate, Bonds not only was considered the best player at his position, he was widely considered the best player in the league. What's more, this all occurred before his age 28 season.
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