Re: John Fay Abstains from HOF Voting to Avoid Casting Votes for Bonds and Clemens
Originally Posted by RedsBaron
Notwithstanding my prior post, I am convinced that eventually PEDS use will not be a bar to induction into the Hall of Fame. There are too many known or suspected PEDS users to keep them all out and once one is inducted I expect the dam will have been burst.
To me Bonds and Clemens are twins of a sort. If suspicions as to when each player began taking PEDS are true (Bonds after the '98 season in reaction to McGwire and Sosa, Clemens after he left the Red Sox), both players had already had a HOF worthy career by that point. I think they both go in or neither one goes in.
Once one PEDS user is inducted, the rationale for automatically excluding PEDS users collapses and will then leave us with the impossible task of deciding who would have been a Hall of Famer even without PEDS and who would not have been.
It doesn't bother me if all PEDS users are kept out of the HOF. Their exclusion would not mean that their careers and baseball history are being ignored by the HOF. Pete Rose isn't in the HOF but photos and other memorabilia of Rose, including his uniform, are displayed in the HOF. However, I do not expect they will all be kept out, so the debate sometimes seems pointless to me.
To me it's pretty easy to sort out. Who was the best of their generation? It's largely the appropriate and the same standard applied to players of any generation. The issue to me would be are there any players being unfairly kept out. In other words, are there marginal HOFers who were clean beyond a shadow of a doubt but who will be kept out by the PED use of others?
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