Originally Posted by PuffyPig
But you are condemning Greinke for having a decent WAR because you say his WAR doesn't measure up to his results (presumably because of bad luck, being on bad team etc.).
When signing Greinke, I believe the Angels were looking at what he was likely to do in the future, as they should.
That's a fair assessment and I think you pointed out what a lot of GM's do. I'm looking at his stats and he only had one really spectacular year. I think it would be remote that he has a year even close to his 2009 season and going by his career he's a pitcher that seems to be a #2,#3 type pitcher. I guess teams can hope upon hope that the "luck factor" will turn around but thus far it hasn't. I certainly do not feel he has put up the kind of numbers that warrent Ace type money. Plus, as I pointed out before, I question his mental makeup. He had trouble in KC and every time I see him pitch I just do not see that "IT" factor. When I see a guy like Karate Boy (Cueto) on the mound, I see a pitcher that is fearless and a guy that you can rely on to pitch a big game. When I see Greinke, I see a guy who slumps his shoulders at times and does let pressure get to him. The psychological aspect of the game is something numbers can't quanify but it is there.