Originally Posted by MikeThierry
That's a fair assessment and I think you pointed out what a lot of GM's do. I'm looking at his stats and he only had one really spectacular year. I think it would be remote that he has a year even close to his 2009 season and going by his career he's a pitcher that seems to be a #2,#3 type pitcher. I guess teams can hope upon hope that the "luck factor" will turn around but thus far it hasn't. I certainly do not feel he has put up the kind of numbers that warrent Ace type money. Plus, as I pointed out before, I question his mental makeup. He had trouble in KC and every time I see him pitch I just do not see that "IT" factor. When I see a guy like Karate Boy (Cueto) on the mound, I see a pitcher that is fearless and a guy that you can rely on to pitch a big game. When I see Greinke, I see a guy who slumps his shoulders at times and does let pressure get to him. The psychological aspect of the game is something numbers can't quanify but it is there.
Even if you exclude his "great" year, he's been a 5 WAR pitcher on the other a years (4.0 in 2011 equates to 5 when you extrapolate his missed starts).
Cueto had a career best last year (by far) of 4.9.
BTW, in the last 5 years Greinke ranks 5th in baseball in WAR for pitchers.
That spells more than an "average" pitcher anyway you cut it.