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Old 01-08-2013, 08:58 PM   #229
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Re: John Fay Abstains from HOF Voting to Avoid Casting Votes for Bonds and Clemens

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Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
Keep in mind, during the biggest part of the steroid era most of the cheating players were concentrated on just a handful of dishonest teams. The Cardinals, Athletics, Rangers and Yankees were chock full of cheaters, the Giants had one big one and so did the Cubs.
I don't buy that for a moment. First off, I'll nominate the dynasty Yankees of the late '90s as a fairly low PED team.

Second, that's a convenient narrative for all other teams. Were the Indians clean with Albert, Thome and Manny? The '90s Phillies sure profiled as a juiced team (Dykstra, Hollins, Daulton, Incaviglia). And maybe the Pirates were juiced to the max, but it didn't matter. Maybe the DBacks milked one last big season from a whole slew of their 2001 roster thanks to chemical enhancement. Biggio and Bagwell played with Ken Caminiti on the Astros and that guy was far from clean. Supposedly the Mets had a clubhouse guy who could get you what you wanted. Edgar Martinez got a lot more muscular in his 30s. Brady Anderson is widely assumed to have juiced and Manny Alexander got caught red-handed, so how clean were the Orioles?

And what's the evidence on that one Cubs guy other than he was big and hit lots of homers? Because if that's evidence then how am I supposed to believe Mike Piazza was legit. BTW, no matter what anyone believes about Sosa, Larry Walker was a better player.

Anyway, I don't have roidar and I'm not assuming teams that may have enjoyed the benefits credulous or complicit reporting were the clean ones.
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