Re: John Fay Abstains from HOF Voting to Avoid Casting Votes for Bonds and Clemens
I have no more idea than anyone else who did and who didn't use anything. If I had to guess, I'd say the use of PEDs was (and may still be) a part of the culture of the clubhouse during that entire era and the ones we know about are just the tip of the iceburg (that's kind of been mentioned publicly by both Jose Canseco and Ken Caminiti but no one wanted to believe it and blamed the source even though both of those guys have proven to have been more correct than anyone wanted to admit as time has gone by). Its why I think using who we think used vs who we think didn't use as a criteria for the Hall of Fame seems silly to me. Either put them all in or keep everyone from the entire era out. Chances are some one who has already used has probably already been elected. Singling out Bonds or Clemens because of incomplete (and who knows how distorted when repeated down the line) hearsay seems like a witch hunt to me. How do we really know that Greg Maddux, Robbie Alomar, Barry Larkin, Pedro Martinez or Ken Griffey JR. never used? There hasn't been any evidence or public accusation and we don't want to believe it, but we really don't know anything.
Either keep the enire era out or put them all in IMO. I don't think the museum should ignore an entire era, where the games were just as important and fans and towns lived and died with each win or loss just as much as in other eras. I'd put them all in. Sure some may have reached some numbers in part because they were PED aided, but lets not pretend that the numbers of others aren't tainted anyway. For example, the 295 foot RF fence with a 340 foot RF power alley in Yankee Stadium may have something to do with the dominance of Ruth and Gehrig might it not? Did an entire era with a dead ball and a legal spitter taint the pitching numbers of Walter Johnson, Christy Matthewson and Cy Young? Did the higher mound reduce the aura of Bob Gibson or Juan Marichal or did it tip the scales for a borderline guy like Jim Bunning? Trying to place some qualification on the numbers is a slippery slope IMO.
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Last edited by mth123; 01-09-2013 at 07:11 AM.