Originally Posted by traderumor
QBs are like aces in MLB, a limited quantity, so if you don't have one, you go with the one that gives you the best chance of winning among what's available. It would seem in theory that you would want each unit to be elite, wouldn't you? So is it poor planning that causes a team to take that area and have to settle for the best that fits among available options? For example, did the Ravens want Dilfer to be their QB, or was that the way things shook out in the multivariable world of team building? So Dalton isn't a top 10 QB, no one is arguing that he is. But the discussion began with "he will not lead the Bengals to the Promised Land." I think there is a lot more going into that than if he is or not in the same league as the top QBs in the league. Because it isn't like Manning is flashing a lot of rings. You would think he had to start ordering toe rings based on what I've been reading in this discussion.
I agree with your first statement. And I have no problem with getting by with a standard issue quarterback like Dalton until they have the opportunity to find a true playmaker.
My concern with Dalton is that even at best, falls into the Flacco zone of a guy just good enough to not "require" an upgrade, and not good enough to actually get to the Super Bowl.
I think Peyton Manning's solitary Super Bowl ring is proof of the point that it's difficult to win a Super Bowl even with a Hall of Fame quarterback, doing it without one is very difficult and getting harder every year.
Going back 10 years, of the 20 starting quarterbacks in the Super Bowl, I'd say 14 have made strong cases for being in the Hall of Fame. Another 2 were likely the best quarterback in their franchise's history.
The last AFC team without a true Hall of Fame level quarterback was the Raiders(Gannon) in Super Bowl XXXVII. Since then it's been a steady stream of Roethlisberger, Peyton, and Brady.
Now to be clear, I'm not much of a "Doesn't have what it takes to be a true winner" nonsense in terms of assessing character traits. I don't think Tom Brady wants to win more than Andy Dalton, I just think he's a better quarterback, and I think for the Bengals to take the step from "Consistent Playoff Presence" to "True Super Bowl contender" they'll likely need a better quarterback.