Originally Posted by Always Red
My point is that because of Bonds, Clemens (because it's their first year of eligibility), McGwire, Sosa, and Palmeiro, many other deserving players have been tainted by the steroid issue. It was rampant during the era, some used, some didn't and there is no way to tell.
I'll throw it out there, how can anyone know FOR SURE that Ken Griffey, Jr and Barry Larkin never used a steroid, EVER, while playing MLB? There is simply no way to know.
To your first part, we'll just have to disagree because we probably disagree on the "deserving" part.
On the second part, because there was no physical evidence of use, there is no anecdotal evidence of use, there is their own denials of use, there are other players' claiming they were clean.....unless you want them to prove a negative, which is patently unfair. Applying the duck test should give you a pretty good idea on identifying obvious users, whether the quack be stats, body mass, congressional testimony, one's own admission of guilt....
The problem is that folks do not want to even apply the duck test because "we don't really know who did and didn't." Can we at least agree that Sammy Sosa quacks like a duck because of physical appearance and stats? That Rafael Palmiero quacks by confession? That Barry Bonds big head quacks? That dozens upon dozens cranking balls out of stadiums with arms like Glenn Braggs didn't get that way naturally? Quack?