Originally Posted by Superdude
This is so hyperbolic and totally not based in fact at all. Hamilton was a mess his first season. He showed terrible plate discipline and hit .205 in the gulf coast league. Mesoraco hit .219, got called fat, showed zero power, and his OPS beat out Rahier by all of .003 points. Stephenson didn't even pitch in his draft year. Homer threw 12 innings that weren't anymore impressive than what Travieso did. If anything, Winker is the giant exception to this rule, but somehow you've written him off too.
I said Hamilton and Mez were two guys that didn't get it right away, but did within 2 years.
The other guys you mentioned (Bailey, Stephenson, etc.) were all Top 200 prospects, regardless of what their on-field performance was. Ditto for Bruce, Leake, Alonso, Grandal, Frazier, etc.
I'm not making any snap judgments about Travieso, Winker (who I'm high on), Gelalich (who I'm not) or Rahier at this time. I'm just pointing out that BA isn't all that high on them based off of their comments, and if anything BA has historically fawned over recent draftees, including Reds draftees.