Originally Posted by Benihana
I said Hamilton and Mez were two guys that didn't get it right away, but did within 2 years.
The other guys you mentioned (Bailey, Stephenson, etc.) were all Top 200 prospects, regardless of what their on-field performance was. Ditto for Bruce, Leake, Alonso, Grandal, Frazier, etc.
I'm not making any snap judgments about Travieso, Winker (who I'm high on), Gelalich or Rahier at this time. I'm just pointing out that BA isn't all that high on them based off of their comments, and BA has historically fawned over (if anything) recent draftees, including Reds draftees.
I guess I just don't put too much stock in the top 200. It becomes guesswork and loosely substantiated rumors at that point IMO, especially for kids that practically went straight from high school science class to Arizona. Obviously the Reds were high on these guys, so I think some reserved judgement is warranted.