Originally Posted by M2
Read it, potentially plus, potentially not. That means they're not sold on it. Every young pitcher is working on every pitch, but Travieso's slider (from all reports) is still a work in progress.
The problem Travieso has is that he does profile like almost every other high schooler, not like a special one. What these capsules are telling us is they don't see him as special quite yet. We'll see if he can be something like a Jose Fernandez or Robert Stephenson in a year and less like Joseph Ross or Kevin Matthews.
Plus, you're familiar enough with how BA and Sickels do their work. They talk to a ton of people before they release their rankings. They're reflecting some overall skepticism about Travieso. Sickels is grading Jose Berrios and Lucas Sims higher right now. Travieso is in a B- pile with some guys who have injury concerns (Ty Hensley, Zach Eflin), didn't get to debut in 2012 (Matt Smoral) and who have admitted placeholder grades (Shane Watson). All of those pitchers could sink like a stone if they don't deliver in 2013.
The amount of 18 year olds with a current PLUS breaking ball can be counted on one hand over the last 10 years. They simply don't exist. Every last one of them is still working on the consistency of the pitch.
Again, I just see this as you trying to read far too deep into this. Of course someone is skeptical of an 18 year old pitcher. The amount of 18 year old pitchers without question marks on them in the last 30 years are limited to Dwight Gooden, Felix Hernandez and who?
Sure, they aren't saying he is a Top 100 prospect right now. Maybe not a special pitcher right now. What is shocking about that? He was a late first round draft pick, not a Top 10 guy.