Originally Posted by TRF
There were no rumors of Rolen to any other city. CHI had Ramirez, STL DeRosa. Maybe PIT or HOU, but neither had even a whisper of a rumor. Stewart was one of the Reds top prospects. How he panned out is irrelevant. Especially if people want to use the EdE hasn't proved anything by then argument, because his bat looks pretty good right now. I'm also betting he could handle LF as well as the Reds current LF, with FAR more production offensively.
In just over 3 years, Scot Rolen has appeared in 330 games as a Red. Have his intangibles been a help to molding a young team? probably. But he hasn't been good since 2010. Meanwhile EE has played in almost 100 more games with 52 more HR's and seems to have broken out into an offensive force.
And remember, Josh Roenicke was in that deal as well and is also still employed by COL. So yes... the Reds overpaid for Rolen.
Man I hate that argument anytime its made regarding a trade (though you counterbalance it nicely in your post, so this isn't really a rant against your post, just that portion). Of course it matters how prospects or players turn out after a trade. it matters that Frank Robinson went on to win an MVP and triple crown after leaving the reds, it matters Arroyo went from a 6th starter to a reliable innings eater w/ better than average results with the Reds.
If the point of baseball is to win games/championships, then it absolutely matters how the players involved in trades perform following the trades. Otherwise, why the heck are we even paying attention.