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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_
I get the feeling that people are reading your opinion like you don't like Rolen and you didn't care for us getting him at all. I read it like you do like him, are glad we got him, but felt like we overpaid in order to do so.
I love me some Scotty Roles. But I really do feel like we should've been able to pull off that deal for considerably less. Edwin certainly would've looked good out there in left the past few years.
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He was available to play the OF right after he got DFA'ed.
If you want to argue that the Reds should have picked him up then, fine.
But once he was DFA'ed and made available to every team in baseball to pick up free of charge (or close to it), that ends the trade value right there.
With Stewart's DFA on top of the DFAs of both EdE and Josh Roenicke, we can finally close the books on this deal and the circular logic that seems to follow.
In the time between the deal and his DFA, EdE put up a 2.0 WAR (ref, baseball-reference.com) for Toronto.
Stewart put up -1.8 WAR before he was DFA'ed.
Roenicke put up -0.7 in WAR before he was DFA'ed by Toronto.
That's a total of -0.5 WAR for the Blue Jays and others in the deal.
Rolen put up 6.9 WAR in 3 1/4 seasons with the Reds. If you only include the WAR he earned while under the original contract (before re-signing with the Reds), his WAR stood at 5.1.
So Jocketty gave up three players who would, collectively, accumulate less than replacement level results while garnering a 3B who performed at an All-Star level.
Paging Captain Obvious. Captain Obvious, please pick up the courtesy phone at the front desk.