Originally Posted by Scrap Irony
He was available to play the OF right after he got DFA'ed.
If you want to argue that the Reds should have picked him up then, fine.
But once he was DFA'ed and made available to every team in baseball to pick up free of charge (or close to it), that ends the trade value right there.
With Stewart's DFA on top of the DFAs of both EdE and Josh Roenicke, we can finally close the books on this deal and the circular logic that seems to follow.
In the time between the deal and his DFA, EdE put up a 2.0 WAR (ref, baseball-reference.com) for Toronto.
Stewart put up -1.8 WAR before he was DFA'ed.
Roenicke put up -0.7 in WAR before he was DFA'ed by Toronto.
That's a total of -0.5 WAR for the Blue Jays and others in the deal.
Rolen put up 6.9 WAR in 3 1/4 seasons with the Reds. If you only include the WAR he earned while under the original contract (before re-signing with the Reds), his WAR stood at 5.1.
So Jocketty gave up three players who would, collectively, accumulate less than replacement level results while garnering a 3B who performed at an All-Star level.
Paging Captain Obvious. Captain Obvious, please pick up the courtesy phone at the front desk.
So you count ALL of Rolen's WAR but only a little of EE's. that's pretty damn selective. EE's total WAR with toronto is 6.0 and he'll actually play next year.
Originally Posted by M2
No, Bautistacizing is a fairly solid theory on this one. Going to be real interesting to see what happens with those two now that HGH testing is coming.
So a player busts out, one everyone on this board including yourself touted as a prime candidate to do so just a few years ago when he was a Red, and now it HAS to be HGH?