Originally Posted by Salukifan2
Is the level of disdain from Reds fans toward the cardinals on this board representative of the whole reds fan base? Because i gotta say, cardinals fans don't feel that way about the reds at all. They don't like Phillips, but neither does anyone outside of Cincinnati. There is a rivalry from the brawl and both teams being competitive right now but it seems like reds consider the cardinals their #1 hated rival when there are probably 5 teams that I consider the cardinals to have bigger rivalries with. Those teams being chicago, KC, NYM, Astros (though that one is over), LAD.
I've heard this kind of argument before, and frankly, it's insulting. I've been told by Browns fans that it's a joke we consider them such a rival because THEY don't even put us on the same plane of existence with their hatred of Baltimore and Pitt. Relax, Browns fan, we're rivals because we're in the same division, in the same state, fans of one team are more likely to know and regularly see fans if another. If any fan base should consider the other less of a rival, it's Bengals fans, since we've been beating them far more often in recent history.
As far as StL goes, you're our rival because you're really good, because we compete for the same division, we play 5 or 6 series a year, and because our respective teams clearly don't get along. Baseball rivalries are fluid. Some liked Boston/NYY are steeped in tradition. Some like Chi/StL are related to geography. But most have to do with who your main competition is at the time.
For a long time, the Reds rivals were La. Then it was Houston. Now neither of those teams are relevant rivalry wise.
Ill give you KC and Chi, but if you asked most NYM or LA fans if the Cardinals were a rival, rheyd probably laugh and say ""What what are you talking about?"