Re: Ryan Braun going down?
Originally Posted by Bumstead
You have taken the position that BOTH samples were tampered with. I have not. There is no proof whatsoever that either sample was tampered with. So, to you, the guy that took the sample is guilty and that's OK. But me taking the position that both samples tested positive and no proof was ever made that either sample was tampered with is a "strange position to take." Ok...
Braun is walking around with smoke flying out of his body and half of the people on here and most in Milwaukee want to just stick their head in the sand. I find that to be a "strange position to take..."
Edit: I say that is your position, because if BOTH samples were not PROVEN to have been tampered with then Braun is guilty. Clearly the Arbiter didn't go that far and let Braun off with his EXCUSES. Just another example of baseball not taking PEDS seriously. The arbitration hearing was a joke and should have never been allowed to have been completed without proof of tampering. There was none of course or it would have been presented.
Nowhere have I suggested any sample was tampered with. To me, it's pretty obvious that the collectively bargained procedure for sample handling was violated and it's possible that as a result the sample integrity was compromised. That position derives objectively from fact.
Proof of tampering absolutely was NOT needed. MLB failed to guarantee that sample integrity wasn't compromised. Those are two distinctly separate issues. You shouldn't brush with such broad strokes.
BTW, you've continually mischaracterized my position and it seems to be because you keep viewing this issue through a preconceived filter.
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