Originally Posted by M2
Because if he didn't, if he's just really good at baseball, then you've got his completely normal career pattern to explain. If you want to insist he started taking roids at some random point during his MLB career, then I'm going to need to know when and I'm going to want an explanation as to why it seemingly hasn't done much in terms of his performance.
Been over this, the power numbers aren't really down that much. HRs are still way higher than they were before the 1993 expansion. And the power numbers didn't drop at all in the mid-2000s when testing started.
And I'm calling foul. You don't get to argue what I've got quoted right above here and also that testing is super-easy to beat (which you've done in other posts in this thread). It's one or the other. Either testing is generally effective and it's done a lot to clean up the game or it's a sham and the game is as dirty as it ever was.
As to the first part of your quote (I don't really know how to break these up...so accept my apology for just starting below the whole thing), do you think baseball doesn't become more difficult as one progresses up the ladder? Do you think that as Braun has gotten older and the competition has become better that his recovery time is not as quick? Regardless of your perception of those items and the decision Ryan Braun made about those thoughts, all I said is that it is almost inconceivable that Ryan Braun didn't accurately test positive in that test. He did. The only way he didn't is if BOTH samples were tampered with. Nobody has even suggested that happened.
Nice! I love it! Just because the tests aren't that difficult to get around doesn't mean every player wants to mess with that. Most players would probably just rather not take the chance; as I recall many players suddenly shrunk in size once testing started (I-Rod). However, that doesn't mean all players are unwilling to take the risk or go through the annoyance of trying to beat the system. And, yes, there is a middle area here, it doesn't have to be one or the other. I don't think the game is "as dirty as it ever was," but I don't think they have cleaned it up yet and I don't believe these random testings are that hard to beat.