Originally Posted by M2
It never did for Braun. He's consistently crushed the ball his whole life. There is no way when looking at his numbers to come up with a magic moment where his performance took off. Your generalities in this case are meaningless.
Don't care at all about that. Whether someone believes he's guilty or not guilty on that test is immaterial to me.
Where I come in on Braun is that he creates massive complications for anyone who wants to claim he was using. He doesn't fit into a little, neat box. It's a much simpler world for those who want to be upset at players for using PEDs if you sweep Braun under the rug.
So your response to me noting that you're speculating both sides of the coin is more speculation? Well, color me impressed. You clearly have an inexhaustible pool of things you can make up on this subject.
I've got to believe that when you re-read that you're going to recognize it holds together about as well as a puddle of goo. I mean you're just blatantly trying to construct an alternate reality in which the opposing viewpoints you've adopted can somehow coexist.
Actually, throughout this whole process I have said this:
1) Braun's test was positive and I believe that he doped. (I don't care whether you care or not) And I argued that the environment couldn't create the positive result. Nobody on here has produced in evidence that Testosterone levels can increase without tampering regardless of the environment. I have asked how this is possible many times without one answer.
2) The use of steroids in baseball hurts baseball's credibility in my eyes.
3) MLB should stop talking about how great their testing is when it's not that difficult for players to get around it.
That's all I have said. Anything else is just fabrication on your part. I did not argue how long Braun had used or if it had any affect (I don't care how long he has used). I did not argue whether it even made a difference in baseball outcomes or power production (I think it does but that has not been my argument). I said the 3 things above. Anything else you want to argue or associate with me is just pure fabrication. There was some unproductive "discussion" with a poster, but that's about par for the course on here.
IMHO I think we are arguing two different things that aren't necessarily entwined, but that's just what I think. The picture was funny; I liked it!