Originally Posted by lollipopcurve
Disagree strongly. Stubbs' metrics do not indicate he was getting to more balls than most centerfielders. Because he's such a smooth and fast runner, Stubbs looks better defensively than he actually is, IMO. He's too passive overall and nor a natural diver (on balls in front of him, for example). Best asset as a CF is his arm.
I have no idea how Choo will be out there, but he's not replacing a superb defender.
I am a huge fan of metrics.....but i almost refuse to use them to look at a players defensive skills....I am not saying using metrics for defense doesn't work but I feel they don't work all the time.....I watched a ton of games in person each season...around 35-40 of the 81 home games I am usually sitting at GABP watching the Reds and Stubbs is the best CF I have seen play the game for the Reds in a long time......I have seen better CF'ers on other teams but watching them inning for inning against drew I didn't notice a huge difference.....there have been so many balls that leave the bat and I instantly would think gab only to have drew glide over and snag it........I will agree with you that his major issue was running in on a ball and diving....diving is sort of one of those catch 22 things.....there are several great OF'ers who say that diving does nothing but slow you down on your path to the ball and there is some truth to that......but I still feel as if there is a time and a place to dive and its just not needed that often....to many times I see a guy on sports center dive and he dives almost the exact second the ball hits his glove and everyone says its a web gem......well I say that drew Stubbs gloves those balls and doesn't need to dive.....
Fact of the matter is this, it's mainly an opinion....there truly is not a good stat out there to prove ones wealth in CF......there are holes in every metric and there are holes in every opinion.....I just truly think we are going to see what it's like to have a mediocre CF'er roaming our OF...we are spoiled and that much is truth, metrics or not we have truly been spoiled by his glove.....maybe not so much his arm and his catching balls that he has to run in on but we are spoiled on every other part of Drew Stubbs defense......