Originally Posted by jojo
The issue with Arroyo's ERA is that it has been helped a great deal by the defenses behind him. He's outperformed his peripherals to a greater extent than any pitcher in the Reds HOF. Normalizing for the era played in doesn't tell the whole story.
No doubt Arroyo has been helped by the improved team defense that Jocketty has fielded. However, in his early days here, he had horrible defenses behind him which probably hurt him.
Arroyo had a nice year in 2012. I'm guessing Arroyo knew he had a great defense behind him and took advantage of it. That's the kind of player I want personally, and I don't want him to be penalized for it.
Now.. if you are comparing Arroyo's skill level to an another pitcher on a poor defensive team, it's fair game to bring up that Arroyo is helped by defense, but as far as Reds' HOF criteria, he's smart to use that defense. If Arroyo tried to strike out every batter he faced, his K rate would probably go up, but I'm guessing we'd get much less innings out of him (and possibly poorer total run prevention).
Thank you Walt and Bob for going for it in 2012 AND 2013!
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