Originally Posted by UCBrownsfan
Swisher doesn't offset of the loss of Choo? Uh what? in what universe?
in the last 3 years Swisher has 76 HRs to Choos 46, Swisher has 99 Doubles to Choos 85, Swisher had 230 Walks to Choos 192, and Swisher has had the same or better WAR 2 of those 3 years, and Swisher actually stays healthy, offensive wise Swisher was a HUGE upgrade and its not even close really
Choo's career OPS+ is 132 ---- Nick Swisher's best year is 129. Choo's average is better than Swisher's best. Swisher is much more consistent. Choo has had a better OPS+ 4 of the past 5 years, since he became a regular. Choo is also 2 years younger. According to Baseball Reference, Choo's 3 year war total is 10.2, and Swisher's is 8.4, despite the games missed by Choo.
I think if Choo was willing to sign an extension with CLE, they would've signed him. He apparently wanted to test the FA market, thus he was traded for a young arm. Swisher + Bourne + their other additions - Choo is potentially a pretty decent improvement in their overall offense. Like many rebuilding teams, there's some potential upside in their pitching, but it probably won't be good enough to contend next year.
If I was an Indians fan, I'd be thrilled with the moves they made over the winter. Think about back to the dark days as a Reds fan.. If the Reds had an offseason where they lost Dunn, yet gained players identical to Swisher/Bauer/Stubbs/Reynolds/Bourn/etc I think I would view that as progress, even if it wasn't likely we were going to contend. I don't follow CLE that closely, but it seems they were very weak in the OF last season.. I think they were forced to play some infielders out there due to lack of depth even. Cleveland didn't fix everything this offseason, but they are closer to contention than they were last year, IMO.
So yea, I agree with you that 2013 Choo is probably slightly better than 2013 Swisher, but the big picture is that Cleveland gets multiple years of Swisher instead of one year of Choo.
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