Originally Posted by Hoosier Red
I think you miss the point.
You said Crean represents the University poorly. When asked how he represents the university poorly, you mentioned two specific incidents which you said, showed his true character. Obviously for any specific time he's acted improperly, I could point out a number of different times he's acted in a manner which I believe shows his character in a positive light. So rather than make it a tit for tat positive example for negative example which would prove nothing, I was pointing out that no person's character should be reduced to two specific incidents over 1 year apart.
Most of the things you've mentioned are a part of his personality, which while I can see why it's annoying, don't really reflect badly on the university.
I can imagine sitting in an interview, and the interviewer says, "We'd like to offer you the job, but we can't value a degree from a university that can't keep its coach in his coaching box."
He's definitely exciteable, and he definitely claps too damn much.
But really when I'm looking for a coach, the number of claps per game is not a metric I'm going to value very highly.
In general, I think you've projected a lot of feelings of IU fans which aren't accurate. Many of us are quite critical of Crean, and we're perfectly happy to discuss which ticks annoy us the most. But it just seems silly to say the guy's a bad guy or should be run out of town because he shakes hands too fast after a loss.
First off, the incident after the UM game was very, very bad, shrug your shoulders if you like, but that was grave dancing and it is never appropriate and should have received a reprimand for doing so publicly. His team had just won a championship, and he goes after an assistant coach to essentially say, "suck it buddy" when he should have been celebrating with his players that he just loves so much. But what is he doing? Self-promoting by taking digs at others.
He also has made accusations of Matta and his assistant's recruiting practices, as well as other programs. I wasn't even referring to his sore loser handshake. Maybe that's no big deal to you and "only two incidents," but it makes me wonder what the magic number for incidents is in Hoosier land. Is it one for each conference team?
Couple that with the grandstanding, and you have a loose cannon that happens to not be quite so politically incorrect as another former Indiana coach, but no less offensive and dangerous. Honestly, if you like that he has brought a championship and that's good enough for you, that is telling as well.
You attempt to minimize my comments as "complaining about personality quirks," even though I've honed in on specific confrontations that are burning bridges around the league. That is why I say stay tuned, not because of all the minor stuff you keep on trying to claim my comments are focused on.
If I were only talking about annoying stuff, like his hairdo and his sideline antics, you'd be right on. But, is that what I have been talking about? Not me. You are projecting what others have said onto me.