Originally Posted by MikeThierry
I completely disagree with that notion, because as I've said, I've seen it first hand in St. Louis during the Ryan Franklin/random other closer years. Granted, Ryan Franklin wasn't a good reliever however they tried guys like Mitchell Boggs and other pitchers there. Mitchell Boggs was one of the best setup guys last year in baseball but put him in the closing role, he folds like a cheap suit.
I also do not think coming into the 8th inning is the same sort of high pressure leverage as coming into the 9th. The mentality of such is completely different. A famous manager that's hated here once said "These are men, not machines". Yes they're professional athletes but every professional athlete has a different mental make up.
How many chances did those guys get? It was talked about that Marshall couldn't handle closing and he had the job taken away from him. Yet we can see that he was 8 out of 9 in save chances as the closer last season. Now, I don't believe it was a mental reason they didn't believe he couldn't do it, but the point is, they didn't believe he could, so they didn't give him much of a chance either. If a guy goes out and closes and hasn't before, then has a poor game early on, he may not get many other chances and you can use the "he can't handle it" line. And maybe he can't. But we probably don't know if that is true or not based on a 5 game sample either.
FTR, Mitchell Boggs had 5 save chances in 2011. He saved 4 and blew one game. I just can't believe that somewhere in those 5 games, 4 of which he did his job in, you identified that he folds like a cheap suit.