Re: The Reds & and the new DH debate
Originally Posted by LeDoux
The post where you ignored the definition of nine versus nine as "NL rules", bypassed the primary point of discussion, and tried to convert the conversation into something easier for you to argue (and I was never advocating to begin with)? That sounds kinda boring.
Let us go back to post 278. What is not to like? No more Hanigan lumbering the base paths. No more feeble middle infielder PAs. Just pure skill (and eyecandy depending where you come down on the cheerleaders) all the time. It would be the highest of high art. We can drink to this, surely.
I didn't bypass the primary point of discussion. I aimed directly at the heart of it. The notion that the NL is superior because it is less specialized just isn't accurate. It is just specialized in a way meant to compensate for a huge talent disparity in one spot of it's batting order.
If your point simply was that the AL uses a DH and that makes the AL different than the NL, then, I concede that point.
If you want to talk about bypassing the primary point of the discussion, post 278 largely is a hyperbolic strawman that no one in this thread has ever advocated. It certainly isn't a logical extension of the argument for the DH and frankly the sentiment represents opinion about the pinch hitter "back in the day". NL fans now cherish the notion of a pinch hitter and defensive replacement-i.e. a guy who may only bat and a guy who may only play defense as a tandem filling a single lineup spot (that math doesn't seem to add up to "nine on nine" to me)-all orchestrated often in response to using a relief specialist who may only be effective against half of a platoon because his repertoire doesn't allow him to even be a complete pitcher.
The irony is that post 278 really embodies the NL style much closer than it represents a caricature of the AL. Perhaps that's your point? You were mocking those who have argued so vehemently against the DH?
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Last edited by jojo; 03-21-2013 at 07:41 AM.