Originally Posted by jojo
Except Pettitte ala 1998 was well above average in the Al environment as again evidenced by the comparison below:
1998 ERA FIP K/9 BB/9
AL ave 4.75 4.64 6.16 3.27
Yanks 3.85 4.11 6.96 2.81
Andy P 4.24 4.28 6.07 3.62
Leake has been below average in the NL environment as a Red.
And I was merely replying to your comment and for clarity's sake simply pointed out that your points about Leake were not representative of my position on Leake. I haven't taken anything personally and am confused why you seem to be.
There wasn't a single ellipse in any of my posts and nothing you stated was abrasively quoted and should be interpretted in that fashion.
Its just your analogy wasn't valid because the parallel being drawn ignored important context. A more compelling argument would've focused upon the Yanks having the best rotation in the AL despite Irabu (a better parallel for present day Leake given the contexts).
1) It's very interesting to me that there would be such a marked discrepancy between AL pitchers and Pettitte and yet he would have an ERA+ of only 104. Was old Yankee stadium a strong pitcher's environment? I haven't seen anything that would imply that.
2) Irabu had better numbers across the board than Pettitte in 1998. Maybe I should change the example: how does Joba Chamberlain in 2009 work? 31 starts, 157.1 innings, 4.75 ERA, 1.544 WHIP, 1.75 K/BB. In 2009, the Yankees won 103 games, the most in MLB. They won the World Series. And they did it with Joba Chamberlain starting every 5 days with those numbers.
No hard feelings- hopefully my example here helps clear up how I feel since I was mistaken on Pettitte. It's tough knowing the point that you want to make and not having it come across at all...