Originally Posted by kaldaniels
I would contend that just because pitchers have been subpar (for lack of a better term - not the point) on teams that have won a lot of games, you can not use that to mean it is ok for a "bad" pitcher to have a spot on the staff.
Again, I am ok with Leake, but pointing to past seasons like Chamberlin isn't a convincing way to build a case if you ask me. It is too easily rebutted. We are looking for future performance, not past history.
It's a dose of historical perspective for those who think that starting Leake is a major oversite by the Reds in 2013. The fact of the matter is that teams have won boatloads of games with fifth starters who are significantly worse than Leake. To be a contender isn't to have five elite starters. Not even historically good teams had five elite starters. That's the simple fact that I am trying to communicate.
To be on topic, though, I still look at the last 24 games of last season in tandem with 2011 to come to the conclusion that Leake is not a poor option but rather a very good option to be in the starting rotation and, as I said before, very well makes the team better by being in the rotation than the team would be if Leake and Chapman switched spots in the locker room and Chapman was the #5 starter and Leake was in the bullpen (at least in the short term).