Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966
Where there's smoke, there's fire. History repeats itself. Terry Bowden laughs!
We will see. Auburn (Cam, baby) seems to be good at covering tracks. Some smart people there (of course not the athletes with bad grades). Right now it is just a report. Almost seems tough to prove something like changing grades or asst. coaches handing money to players. All words out of mouths of former players. Wonder why these former players seem hell bent on bringing down their former team? Especially if it is untrue. Perhaps there is a Terry Bowden thing related to these former players (screwed by the one that used to feed you). For those who do not know about Bowden... he was coach there and got fired b/c certain powers-to-be did not care for him. He led them to an undefeated season (while on probation, not his doing). Maybe these former players got screwed by AU... not given the money/girls/grades they were promised? Just speculation. But there is a lot of smoke in the southern parts of Alabama. As there has been many times in the past.
Where there is smoke there is smoke. There's a reason that the Smokey Mountains aren't called the On fire Mountains.
It's intellectually lazy at best to argue smoke=fact. It's often just obfuscation in lieu of substantiating a claim.
What former players are hellbent on bringing down Auburn? Most of the players Roberts named have vehemently denied that she accurately quoted them. Even McNeil won't substantiate Roberts' blog story-he was asked several times yesterday by reporters to do so. Again-lets stick to facts not impressions of headlines. The lawyers for McNeil and his partners tried to make this about a drug culture during the grand jury phase. McNeil is trying to stay out of prison. Roberts is trying to use McNeil as proof that an Auburn Football Secret Society exists and insidiously controls all branches of the government to enrich the athletic department. Reasonable people actually entertain this story?
But then those that actually care to look at the facts concerning Auburn quickly realize that there really isn't even alot of smoke but mostly poofers echoing on the blogoshere.....(i.e. what many want to call smoke doesn't even stand the test of fact/accuracy). I heard Mike and Mike today describe Roberts blog story as the "Auburn cheating scandal". There is no Auburn cheating scandal. Those guys were editorializing about an issue for which their opinions were grossly uninformed.
Seriously anyone who knows anything about Will M, would gag with laughter upon hearing a story about him embracing a player after a bad practice and handing the player $400 to perk him up. It would be more believable that Muschamp grabbed McNeil by his dreadlocks and planted his nose square into a tackling dummy.
The local police and judges are conspiring with Chizik to railroad McNeil to deflect attention from Cam and apparently Chizik targeted McNeil because Chizik is a racist and doesn't like dredlocks? Seriously Mike and Mike-that didn't seem like something to question? I doubt they even read Roberts' blog. In fact I know there is no way they could have given their superficial treatment.
And that's the point. Alot of this smoke is echoes across the internet of people editorializing about something they really aren't familiar with or qualified to discuss factually.
BTW, grade changes are extremely easy to verify because there is a rock solid paper trail. There's probably a good reason that Roberts decided to take McNeil's word rather than do some simple checking. Literally a grade change is time stamped, it is crystal clear which administrator made the change and incredibly easy to find the justification.
But ya, you're "just speculation" speaks volumes (and this isn't a commentary directed at you) because it's very easy to speculate anything. It's even easier than a scout dreaming on a high school pitcher because at least the pitcher generally has some stuff.
For instance, OSU got nailed after the NCAA poked into emails and records etc. We know for a fact there was fire generating the smoke at OSU-its' factually documented. It's very easy to speculate that OSU got off easy though because they had plently of time to completely erase all evidence of the truly big, bad stuff that was going on and to thus cauterize the wounds. It's possible that the athletic department was providing high class call girls to recruits. This is leagal in Las Vegas and OSU has a jet plane that could easily be used to fly them back and forth. I could imagine that OSU bought several houses for the parents of their star players. There might even be a subdivision in Columbus, a gated community of illegal gift houses if you will. College football is big business and OSU constantly battles their rivals Michigan and PSU for the top recruits. They also seem to be branching out into non-traditional recruiting waters so surely they are outbidding all of those other cheating schools in the "where there is smoke there is fire hotbeds" like Mobile. Why would a recruit go to OSU for free when Georgia, Bama, Auburn and LSU are handing out $200,000 checks? Heck OSU brought in a mastermind of the "cheaters too smart to get caught" from the SEC to be their coach! But why wouldn't any of this be easy to trace by follwoing a money trail? Well obviously it's because the OSU athletic department is funding this through orchestrating a cocaine dealing ring. They guys getting the free tattos? They were really selling the cocaine and the tatoo shop was the front for the OSU recruiting program. This goes deep as it's likely local politicians, judges and police officers are somehow involved in the coverup. That's how OSU was able to hide everything because they got plenty of advanced warning.
See how easy but unfair it is?