Originally Posted by RedEye
Keri's just saying that Heisey's D makes up for his O, and that should be factored in when comparing him to Ludwick. I though it was supposed to be a compliment to both players (for their respective skills) and to the franchise (for acquiring a deep talent base). What past history do you have that contradicts this?
Keri's claim isn't really that controversial. He uses Win Shares to argue that Heisey is not actually that bad of a replacement for Ludwick, all things considered. What's wrong with that? Shouldn't we be happy about it?
Maybe you aren't a Goose fan, but I think Keri's point is that Gossage was used in a way that should be the model for a true bullpen fireman -- a pitcher who comes in to the game based on situation specifics rather than inning. The idea would be that you want your best RP going in the highest leverage situation, which may or may not align with traditional "closer" or "setup man" innings slots. Keri does admit that this strategy unlikely to happen -- but it is an interesting idea.
Again, you are missing the point Keri is making about Heisey, which is that he has an overlooked balance of O and D skills. The point really is that he can hit .240 (if you like batting average as a good measure of skill) and still be a valuable contributor to the team.
You might be right about Paul, though -- who I tend to like. Anyone know anything about his D?
1. Only one who did not watch the Reds last year would not appereciate Ludwick's defense. While he clearly does not have the athletic ability Heisy has, he makes up for it in intelligence and instinct. I have never seen a outfielder who positions himself better than Ludwick.
In terms of offensive ability, professionalism, and (from what I've heard) club house pressence- no contest.
2. "What's wrong with that? Shouldn't we be happy about it?"
Its an absurd comparison. Ludwick carried this team on his back when Votto got hurt. Heisey is a fill in reserve.
"he has an overlooked balance of O and D skills."
WE've seen Heisy for several years now. He's a jouneyman ballplayer who often suffers brainlock- witness his slide into homeplate. These things happen a lot with him.
3. "Maybe you aren't a Goose fan"
Yankee partial season ticket holder in late seventies- I know Gossage very well. Chapman doesn't have the arm durability Gossage had. After Lyle left, those Yankees did not have the bullpen depth this team has which necessitated overworking Goose.
Plus why mess around with Chapman when you've got two terriffic setup men in broxton and Marshall?
Makes no sense. Its a long season. Chapman clearly thrives on the role is has been given. If its not broke , don't fix it.