Originally Posted by Salukifan2
You clearly don't have a strong understanding of the Cardinals organizational depth from reading this post. First, to refute what you said about the cards bullpen. What bullpen doesn't have a high turnover rate? Also, The system is currently loaded with good lefties and righties. Some are starters and some are already relievers. When Motte, Boggs, and Mujica are gone itll be ok because there will be Fornataro, Butler, Siegrist, Joe Kelly and many more filling in just fine in the BP not to mention the possibility of outside options there.
What players will be forced out because of graduating minor leaguers? Oscar Taveras takes Beltran's Job through free agency. Greg Garcia may take Kozma's job or get traded. David Freese's injury history and age will force him out. Westbrook is gone after this season to make way for Wacha or Martinez.The only "vet" that they will have to make an impactful decision on is Freese. Thats the whole reason they drafted 3 third basemen in the first five rounds last year.
You are trying to say having a top system is going to get in the way of itself more than help which is preposterous.
Ill give you that the cards FO has a tough call to make in terms of Adams. Honestly, the cards should hope that the NL starts using the DH.
This post of yours actually makes my point for me, they're going to lose the good BP arms and established players they have now and replace them with young guys who aren't all going to jump right in and be as good if they do ever pan out and many of the players you list will not all make it at all.
So with that they aren't actually improving they are keeping a Status quo at best unless the package them for a position of real need like SS, and keeping the Status quo isn't going to be good enough when Wainwright, Molina and Holliday all start to fade due to age while making a premium price.
Cards fans have a massive, MASSIVE delusion that every player they draft will make it when it just doesn't work that way for anyone even the best of the best in the Top-100. Which is funny to me because they have had a ton that flopped but they still live with their heads in the same on the success rate of minor league players.
This is a good write up on actually success rates...
We have 75th overall prospect Cozart now in parts of his 3rd year with a .245/.282/.401/.682 career line we also have 14th overall Mesoraco with a line of .202/.278/.345/.624 also now in year three so to expect these guys to replace productive players and do just as well is comical since in baseball some make it, some make it big but most don't make it at all.
When you have all these players all playing the same position they do get in the way of each other, once some make the show and the others are blocked they lose their prospect shine or will get moved for MLB need and that top system drops to the middle of the pack quick, and if one of those guys don't pan out and they are forced to use several of the others to go out and trade for a cheap player like the Reds did with Latos it hurts the depth even more.
This is why the organization rankings are cyclical. In 2011 the Cardinals were 24th, then went to 10th then to 1st on the back of not making and big moves and getting some extra picks. KC was #1 in 2011 then went to 2nd and now are at 18th. When the Cards were 24th the Reds were 6th we graduated some guys and traded some for our big league holes and now are 15th its just how baseball works.