Originally Posted by Old school 1983
Maybe I am mistaken, but I believe that Headley is signed through next season as well. I'd never give up cueto for a rental. And the cueto idea was for if the reds think they have a shot at signing latos or bailey long term. I see them improving, and while cueto is an ace I don't see him getting much more out if his game, not that it is bad.
As far as Stanton goes I could see the marlins attaching him to Ricky Nolasco in a trade, which may not be a bad thing for the reds because it would allow them to move pitching without a huge hit and it might bring the actual price in prospects for the trade down. I could see it going like this:
Cisco or Romano
That seems like a type of trade that could go down based on the marlins and reds trading history. The marlins would save money and get quality in return. The reds would get pieces they need but would not be parting ways with anyone that would create a hole in the current lineup.
Leake and Cingranis spots get filled by cueto and Nolasco, heisey by ruggiano, and fraziers by Polanco, if not by hannahan and Hrod platoon. The rest of the guys in the trade would offer high upside with the marlins, but are years away from contributing to the reds or are blocked at their positions.
Meh. Won't happen. Reds are adding too much payroll. Stanton is under control for awhile. Sure, he gets a raise in arbitration, but not $10M or $20M. Nolasco comes with enough salary to kill the deal. But he and Polanco are FA's after 2013. I don't see the Reds giving up their long term answer to 3B for a 37 year old. Plus the Reds are already paying Hannahan as backup to 3B.
Neither team is looking to take much salary, if any.
Polanco, 37 years old, $2.75M in 2013, FA in 2014
Nolasco, 30 years old, $11.5M in 2013, FA in 2014
Ruggiano, 31 years old, minimum
Stanton, 23 years old, minimum, arbitration in 2014
Not sure why the Reds need Ruggiano when they already have Heisey. Unless you include Heisey in the trade when he comes off the DL.
So maybe something like this......
Stanton - main target for Reds in trade
Nolasco - Fish require Reds take on his salary. But he is a FA in 2014
Ruggiano - takes place of Heisey as back up CFer or full time CFer and Choo moves to LF. Makes the minimum for years to come.
Mike Dunn (LH Reliever, 1.72 e.r.a.) - strengthens the bullpen immediately against lefties. Lefties hitting .226 against him this season. Arbitration eligible in 2014. FA in 2017.
Heisey (major leaguer) - younger version of Ruggiano
Leake (major leaguer) - young and just now hitting arbitration, replaces Nolasco at a cheaper rate.
F Perez (AAA) - candidate/prospect to replace Stanton; cheap
N. Soto (AAA) - 1B candidate to replace Marlins Greg Dobbs (34 years old).
B. Hamilton (AAA) - Reds #1 prospect
Corcino (AAA) - Reds 3rd best pitching prospect
HRod (AAA) - heir apparent to Polanco at 3B
Logan Ondrusek - replaces Dunn in bullpen.
Frankly, I think that's a pretty good haul for the Fish even if Billy Hamilton wasn't included.