Re: Stanton, Headley, Fowler and the guys I'd give up for each
Originally Posted by Old school 1983
I was saying maybe Polanco. I could see maybe including Hrod instead of Frazier. I. Your version of the deal, aside from Hamilton and leake, the reds are giving the fish a lot of second tier prospects. Isn't there top position player prospect a center fielder? I think in that case they wouldn't want Hamilton. Lutz and heisey offer a major league ready guy and a guy with a few years of experience. Frazier would be a sweetner plus they could pay a lower price than for Polanco, who would platoon with hannahan until seasons end. The acquisition if Stanton would lessen the need for fraziers bat. It'd be tough loosing cingrani and leake but I think the fish would welcome the pitching help. At that pint the top three in their rotation would look pretty good. I know the reds would be taking on money, but it's money that comes off the books at years end. It'd be kind if a win now trade, but not a minor league busting trade. Next year for the reds Hamilton can slide into center if choo isn't resigned and Hrod can go to third or platoon with hannahan. Corcino could go into the rotation and arroyo could be either resigned or another pitcher be brought in.
All And all I just don't think you'd be giving up enough.
Cingrani has more upside than leake and by giving them both I'd be a real deal starter
Lutz is more versatile than Soto and IMO had greater upside. He'd be a better pie e for the fish than Perez who'd be a stopgap at best. Late 20s and in AAA with no majors experience.
Frazier and Hrod to me is almost a push depending on what kind of player you need. If the reds acquire Stanton you can go with more contact and Frazier has more trade value. Plus the fish could see Frazier and lutz make up for the lost power.
Heisey is a servicable backup
Travieso has plus stuff but is years away and may not be ready until the reds window of opportunity is past
Either Cisco or Romano is a nice sweetner piece but no major loss to the big league club until like 2 or three years from now.
The only way I could see my proposed deal being different is to take leake out and put corcino in do the reds can keep reliable big league pitching.
All are 4A players at this point with little to prove in triple A. It's now or never and they are blocked in the Reds organization.
Corcino is on the cusp. Probably this season and next in triple A and he's pushing on the door.
While Lutz may seem like the bigger name.......he was hitting only like .212 in double AA. Not sure what the allure is with him at this point. Potential is high though.
Not sure Cingrani has more upside than Leake at this point. Leake has 4 pitches. Cingrani has 2, maybe 3. Leake is more polished. Cingrani easily could be getting by on the league having never seen him before.
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