Re: Tony Cingrani Thread
Tony labored yesterday. Yeah, it was only one start, but it can't be discounted. He threw a lot of pitches in 4 innings. My "concern" for a young guy who, at this stage, relies very heavily on his fastball, is his average innings per start and the subsequent PC. He's averaging 5 1/2 innings and throwing close to 100 pitches.
Why is he throwing so many FBs? ... or why are the catchers calling for them?
Because that is his "bread n butter" that helped him dominate at the various minor league levels, blow through batters, and what got him here. Not his "secondary" pitches (change-up, breaking ball), which most scouting reports say are average and in need of further development.
What helps Cingrani, whose FB averages in the low 90s, will peak in the mid-90s at times, is that his deceptive mechanics make it tougher to pick up the ball.
But there are still some very valid concerns with this kid....
1) Will his over reliability on that fastball, which he uses so often, hinder the development of his secondary stuff which, at the major league level, is needed?
2) Is the major league level, vs better, more experienced hitters, really the place we want him trying to develop them?
I don't discount his success at the minor league levels, but one can get away with more because you aren't facing the same level, and experience, when it comes to hitters at the major league level.
I thought it was interesting, as per FanGraphs, that Cingrani throws his FB 82% of the time, while Verlander only throws his 57%. In fact, only two starters who throw their fastball more than Cingrani are Ross Detwiler and Bartolo Colon.
If Cueto comes back next week, I think they'll pull Tony in, give him a pep talk, tell him how proud they were of his performance while here, he has a bright future with the Reds, really build him up.... then send him down because they want him to develop further and possibly become even a better pitcher then what we have witnessed so far. Yeah, I think that is possible.
And it's not the fact that he doesn't deserve to be here; but that there is no place for him in the starting rotation unless they basically dump somebody. And with everyone talking about Leake .. and I don't see them moving Mike to the BP .... I just don't think they'll make that rash decision, possibly end up losing him, when they don't need to at this stage and can KEEP BOTH. Why risk losing an arm when there is still uncertainty, valid concerns about this young man?
"panic" only comes from having real expectations
Last edited by GAC; 05-11-2013 at 07:02 AM.