Originally Posted by foxfire123
I was one of the ones against the merger. Even tho I had the time in, and the post count, I had no interest in joining ORG.
To me, many (not all, just some) of the ORG always came across as the serious baseball guys. The ones who followed sabermetrics and all that statistical stuff. Who knew baseball history down to the nth degree, who could name the 3rd batter of the 7th game of the XX WS game right down to how many pitches they faced in each at bat, how many strikes and balls and how fast they ran to first. I never wanted to be that kind of fan Not that it's bad in any way, just too... Intense for me. This is fun. Baseball is a good time and entertainment. I just don't want to *work* at it.
the old Sun Deck was more like sitting down in a sports bar with a bunch of guys who, while they love the game, knew the history to an extent, followed some of the stats, etc. They were more there for a good time. Not to analyze everything. They love the game, and do take it serious, they're good, loyal fans, but not THAT serious. If I'm making any sense....
I don't want to be in a place where every post is analyzed and inspected to meet a standard of "quality". If you're the type of fan who love the minute details of statistics and want to analyze every aspect of the game, hey, go for it. If that makes you happy, then I'm all for it for you. But the fact that *I* don't go to that level, doesn't make me any less of a fan. or my contributions less "quality".
I began as a lurker here in the cincinnati.com/Gallagher days. The cincinnati.com board was overrun by anti-Griffey (whiffey) trolls that would stop at nothing to disrupt decent conversation. Redszone was established to be something else, something better. I guess I point that out because I disagree with your characterization of the ORG. It's not a collection of folks that know it alls. Far from it. Some folks know a lot; some folks know a little. Some like to rely on what their eyes tell them; others like to believe what an equation tells them. Most folks are somewhere in between. We have posters that make you feel like you're hashing it out with a buddy at the neighborhood bar, while others can break things down like a brilliant statistician. People come and go, but Redszone (and the ORG) has always been a varied group. I can assure you of that. The common thread through the years has been a passion for baseball and ta collective commitment to elevate the conversation above what you find on other message boards.
It isn't about knowledge of stats or knowledge of baseball history. No one gives you a quiz at the door. That being said, I'd argue it's one of the best places on the internet to expand your knowledge about baseball, if you so desire. If not, no one is going to accuse you of being less of a fan. You might get challenged on some positions you take, but what's the value in everyone agreeing with you all the time (especially if you could be wrong)?
The ORG is embodied in the guy it's named after. I'm sure you're aware on some level that he was a former poster here that made a lasting impression. Unfortunately, server crashes over the years have wiped out the vast majority of his posts, but a few remain. If you haven't read them, I'd encourage you to do so. This is a good thread to check out: http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79772
You'll find that he doesn't talk about advanced statistics; he doesn't talk about baseball history other than what he experienced himself. His posts are a guy telling the rest of us what he knows. It didn't require him to know any advanced statistics or detailed history of the game. All it required was his passion and the desire to convey it in a quality manner. IMHO, that's the essence of the ORG.