Originally Posted by qotsa04
Although I don't want to say anything since I have received 'infraction' message for the reason of being right, I'll just say a few words.
According to your opinion, Molina is a better hitter than even Votto. Right?
In baseball, Hitter is not just a hitter.
'HItter' is a person who can reach the base not only via 'Hit' but also via Walk and HBP.
Why is Votto a great hitter? What's the differences between Votto and other hitters?
'The ability to draw walk on the basis of the plate discipline' is one of the main differences.
Many people don't appreciate the value of base on balls.(for example, leadoff walks causing the trouble)
According to the glossary of FanGraphs.com, 'OBP is considered more accurate than Batting Average in measuring a player’s offensive value, since it takes into account hits and walks. A player could bat over .300, but if they don’t walk at all, they’re not helping their team as much as a .270 hitter with a .380 OBP.'
You are right about OBP vs BA. No one is arguing that point. But OBP is not the sole benchmark. Yes it ranks at the top of the list BUT Slg is also vital...how much damage does a hitter produce when he swings the bat? Votto, with both great discipline and very good power is an offensive force. There IS a tipping point where lack of power and/or low BA inhibits the ability to influence games dramatically. In advanced stats a walk is worth a ton because it avoids outs but any RC formula also informs that it is worth less than a single.
Another point is that you got infractions for the attacking and insults you passed out...not whether you were right or wrong. I guarantee it - the moderators here trip over themselves not to heavy handed but come on. Name calling and personal attacks isn't presenting an argument. It is flaming and is used when people are insecure in their actual argument.
Since stat analysis is an evolving on going process claiming you are right and everyone else wrong is simple arrogance. Your opinion is as right as mine.
Again OBP is perhaps the best single stat if you must be limited to one but then you will have an incomplete and often erroneous conclusion.