Originally Posted by dougdirt
Danny Graves had 182 saves and a 112 ERA+ for the Reds. He leads the team in saves for his career by a significant margin. Only three other guys even have half as many as a Red as Graves does.
He had some real clunkers in there, but overall, he was an above-average reliever for the Reds for quite a while (1998-2002 he was really good).
Yeah, I want guys who are better than "above average" in the HOF. I know Graves had a couple really good years, but he's not a Reds' HOF, IMO.
I also thought the guy got by on a lot of luck the couple years he was good. I mean, Coco Cordero had a couple good years too as our closer (luck-aided). Is he up for HOF consideration too? Of course not.