Originally Posted by M2
Honestly, what I'm seeing on the board in regard to Phillips makes the "Bronson Arroyo must never be allowed to pitch again" protestations of two winters ago look reasoned and erudite.
The guy is noticeably slowed. If I thought he was going to be the Brandon Phillips we've seen over the last five years, I would want to keep him, I just think that player no longer exists. I think we're entering a phase where a .700 OPS is a top end, that ever reducing speed will start to show up in his range and the jaw dropping defense will be a thing of the past. I don't want to trade the 30/30 Brandon Phillips who is easily the best defender in the game. I want to deal the guy who is morphing into the late career Orlando Hudson who has a salary that precludes the team from getting upgrades elsewhere.
The question isn't whether we want to go from a downgrade of Phillips to obtain a downgrade of Choo, it's whether we want to upgrade from what is left after Choo leaves and re-start at 2B with a player who is on the upswing. Keep Phillips and you're stuck with Hamilton/Robinson. Deal Phillips and you get Choo or some other attractive player for CF to go with Phillips' replacement. IMO, even if Phillips replacement is a journeyman replacement level guy, the team is better with that and Choo than with Phillips and the in house CF options.
If it's possible to keep Choo (or some similar offensive force) and Phillips (I don't think so), then keep him, but he's owed a ton of money for declining production and if that prevents getting better players at other spots, then he's gotta go IMO.