Originally Posted by IslandRed
Disclaimers... (1) FSU grad here who has heard plenty of TPD horror stories, although being overly helpful to athletes is not among their normal traits. (2) As a man who is also the daddy of a daughter, my position is simple: If he raped someone, I want him off the team and in jail. If he didn't rape anyone, I don't want his name dragged through the mud. Too late on the latter one way or the other, unfortunately. (3) Some of my fellow FSU fans need to be leashed and muzzled. (4) Apparently, so does practically everyone involved in this case except the two principals.
What I've been reading is that Winston (through his attorney) has taken the position all along that it was a consensual sexual hookup, and the DNA sample was given last week knowing there would be a match. It's not new information except to outsiders who were hoping it was all a big misunderstanding. (To answer another question, yes, a rape kit was performed at the time.) And it's also being said that Winston and the alleged victim were not strangers, according to the affidavits and social-media bread crumbs. So it raised serious eyebrows when the initial report described an unknown assailant who didn't resemble Winston and then she didn't ID him until a month later, if indeed she did know Winston all along. At a certain point, when it was clear there wasn't a viable case with which to move forward, the alleged victim let it drop and TPD did likewise.
Anyway, take that for what it's worth, which could be everything, nothing or in between.
It does appear TPD screwed up by not forwarding the case to the state attorney's office as a matter of protocol, regardless of what they thought of the merits.
There's also plenty of speculation about who tipped off the media and TMZ about the inactive case, right about the time FSU went to #2 and Winston became the Heisman front-runner. It's not of much interest to me, though, because ultimately it's small potatoes compared to what the alleged victim and Winston are dealing with.
Remember that this is all a re-hash of stuff that happened from December to February. It's new to us, but it's not new to them, so if they hadn't suspended him before, they're probably not going to do it now. (Edit) Unless he's charged. By rule, athletes at FSU who are charged with felonies cannot compete until the case is resolved.
I appreciate a response from someone who has more a feeling of the local flavor.
This stuff happened from December to February, but that also coincides with FSU Baseball season starting up, in which Winston is a pretty good player, no? I did not know who Winston was until this football season started but from experience as an OSU fan, if you have a hyped QB, even as a HS senior, their name is pretty much known by all OSU fans. Could Winston's status have gotten him out of this?
The dangerous aspect of this case is if the police coerced this woman into dropping the story. I am not an attorney, but if the defendant chooses not to press charges, doesn't the accusation go away? We see it all the time with wives who are beaten by their man. They sustain pretty substantial injuries, head to the hospital, make an accusation, but then fail to press charges and the case is dropped.
The way I look at it today is that Winston submitted to a DNA test because both he and his lawyer knew what was going to be found. They knew his DNA was on the accuser's underwear. They knew that submitting a DNA test would be much easier than having one subpoenaed (if that is the proper term.) If he was forced by the court to give a DNA test that would have been greeted with much great fan fare.
If, and this is a big if, the accuser in this case was "coerced" by the police to drop the case because of Winston's status in FSU's athletic programs then you have a massive case on your hands. If this is a case of he said, she said, with limited evidence then I feel bad for Winston. The problem is when the proper channels aren't used you often make mountains out of molehills.