If you really want to precise, the downcycle has been in effect since 1996 minus the flukie 99-00 era. Though Redszone wasn't alive them probably
The Reds are just ****ty baseball. That is the way it has been a long time now, it was that way up to the Big Red Machine era and off and on to 1995.
Fans want quick fixes, winners now. I don't think the Reds are in position for that at this time. In 1997 I figure more people would be more patient considering the hole the Reds organization was in financially and developmentally at that time. They just didn't expect it wouldn't be filled in 2004 after 6-7 years of "structural" rebuilding inside and a new stadium making the team supposedly have looser purse strings(which in some ways it did, thinking 1997). So you get alot of crying and whining on every little thing :thumbdn: Timing is everything and the Reds have blown at it. For the Reds hopefully they get "phased" in a little better over the next 6 years.