Originally Posted by Doc. Scott
Well, if Reitsma, Riedling, and Wagner were all going to be RH middle relievers, why would O'Brien have picked up Jones? Do you think he got Jones to come to the Reds' camp by telling him he'd pitch mop-up after Jones was doing well that spring with Tampa, a club that had space for him?
As I remember on the 26th, the Reitsma trade was announced in the morning. The two transactions could have happened but hours apart. It just seems like a pretty simple line of thinking by O'Brien to me, given everything he'd said about building through youth and yadda, yadda, yadda prior to and since the Reitsma trade.
On the other hand, DanO SHOULD"VE been looking for more bullpen help all winter. I know the party line was "the bullpen will be just fine",
but any pen with Norton and Reith (with Reitsma and Reidling being shopped),
should've had some vet filler like Jones added.
I do see your point though.. without the Reitsma trade, DanO might've been
too lazy to look for more bullpen help. At the same time, I think you can't
justify the Reitsma trade by counting the Jones signing as a benefit. That
move could've been made independently.
[QUOTE=Doc. Scott]Exactly, so if O'Brien tells him it's only Graves and Riedling he has to beat out for saves instead of the trio of Graves/Riedling/Reitsma, then that's enough to make him give up a likely role in the Tampa mess for a comparable one in Cincinnati.
IIRC, wasn't Jones CUT by Tampa.. The dude was desparately looking for a job. I don't think he was in a position to be picky about saves.. Think about it. In spring training, it was very unlikely
he'd get saves with Wagner and Graves in front of him. It's very likely if Jones
didn't sign with Cincy, he'd be unemployed now.
Plus, looking at the stats (just for you WOY), Reitsma is a better pitcher.
Reitsma 28 ip; 29 hit; 5 bb; 16 K; whip 1.21; era 2.57
Jones 29.1 IP; 25 hit; 14 BB; 23k; whip 1.33; era 4.30