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westofyou · 07-27-2004, 11:45 AM

Tony has a point, that it won't change Dunn into a singles hitter, but maybe Thome?

Prior to this season Dunn K'd 1 time every 3 ab's, Thome 1 every 3.34, that's 19 K's over the season, maybe 6 more hits and 10 points on BA?

Dunn has worked on that part of his game as the season progressed, he tends to bottom out when he has bad months, the chief hit is in the SLG% department, mostly due to the lack of bat on ball during his AB's.

By Month

April - 2.44
May - 2.35
June -3.00
July - 3.33

Reggie Jackson K'd about 1 every 3.33 ab's during his first 1600 AB's, he was able to push that to 4.0 for his next 4700 AB's.

Any improvement by Dunn in K's will be small, baby step improvements, he'll always K at prodigous rates, you or I might notice a 10-15 % drop but the general public won't.

As for Gwynn, the man knows hitting for sure. I believe he has alot to offer any hitter in the game. Tony, though exists in a plane that doesn't intersect with todays game as much as the game of your grandfathers and their fathers.

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CAREER
STRIKEOUTS <= 500
AVERAGE vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
OPS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
RUNS CREATED/GAME vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria

AT BATS                         AB       SO       AVG      OPS     RC/G    
1    Ty Cobb                   11434      357     .094     .241     4.64   
2    Honus Wagner              10430      327     .061     .176     3.60   
3    Tris Speaker              10195      220     .070     .215     3.90   
4    Eddie Collins              9948      286     .059     .143     2.54   
5    Nap Lajoie                 9589       85     .072     .169     3.09   
6    Sam Crawford               9571      104     .049     .152     2.35   
7    Jake Beckley               9526      270     .030     .085     1.15   
8    Paul Waner                 9459      376     .049     .130     2.40   
9    Bill Buckner               9397      453     .025     .006     0.00   
10   Tony Gwynn                 9288      434     .073     .110     1.90

BTW for the season WMP K's 1/3.3 and for his career 1/3.0

For the season prior to July WMP was K'ing 1/2.9, In july he has pushed his average up more than 35 points whilst cutting his K's down to 1 every 4.8.

Hot streaks do wonders for the K rate (as does hitting every 1st pitch you can) I'd look for WMP to experience streaks that will be equally frustrating as Dunns, with a lower BB rate.

07-27-2004, 11:45 AM	#102
westofyou breath Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: PDX Posts: 39,343	Re: Get rid of Adam Dunn while is value is high Tony has a point, that it won't change Dunn into a singles hitter, but maybe Thome? Prior to this season Dunn K'd 1 time every 3 ab's, Thome 1 every 3.34, that's 19 K's over the season, maybe 6 more hits and 10 points on BA? Dunn has worked on that part of his game as the season progressed, he tends to bottom out when he has bad months, the chief hit is in the SLG% department, mostly due to the lack of bat on ball during his AB's. By Month April - 2.44 May - 2.35 June -3.00 July - 3.33 Reggie Jackson K'd about 1 every 3.33 ab's during his first 1600 AB's, he was able to push that to 4.0 for his next 4700 AB's. Any improvement by Dunn in K's will be small, baby step improvements, he'll always K at prodigous rates, you or I might notice a 10-15 % drop but the general public won't. As for Gwynn, the man knows hitting for sure. I believe he has alot to offer any hitter in the game. Tony, though exists in a plane that doesn't intersect with todays game as much as the game of your grandfathers and their fathers. Code: CAREER STRIKEOUTS <= 500 AVERAGE vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria OPS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria RUNS CREATED/GAME vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria AT BATS AB SO AVG OPS RC/G 1 Ty Cobb 11434 357 .094 .241 4.64 2 Honus Wagner 10430 327 .061 .176 3.60 3 Tris Speaker 10195 220 .070 .215 3.90 4 Eddie Collins 9948 286 .059 .143 2.54 5 Nap Lajoie 9589 85 .072 .169 3.09 6 Sam Crawford 9571 104 .049 .152 2.35 7 Jake Beckley 9526 270 .030 .085 1.15 8 Paul Waner 9459 376 .049 .130 2.40 9 Bill Buckner 9397 453 .025 .006 0.00 10 Tony Gwynn 9288 434 .073 .110 1.90 BTW for the season WMP K's 1/3.3 and for his career 1/3.0 For the season prior to July WMP was K'ing 1/2.9, In july he has pushed his average up more than 35 points whilst cutting his K's down to 1 every 4.8. Hot streaks do wonders for the K rate (as does hitting every 1st pitch you can) I'd look for WMP to experience streaks that will be equally frustrating as Dunns, with a lower BB rate.