Originally Posted by Redmachine2003
Hudson first couple of year in the minors he pitched lights out.
Hudson's first couple of years (ages 21 & 22):
* 1998 Portland (low A): 15 GS, 3-6 record, 4.74 ERA, 1.49 WHIP
* 1999 Asheville (low A): 20 GS, 6-5 record, 4.30 ERA, 1.28 WHIP
Hudson didn't put up a sub-3.00 ERA until his SIXTH year of pro ball. If that is your definition of 'lights out', then I can see why you like Hudson.
Here is MY definition of 'lights out'.
Maddux's first couple of years (ages 18 & 19):
* 1984 Pikeville (Rookie): 12 GS, 6-2 record, 2.63 ERA, 1.22 WHIP
* 1985 Peoria (low A): 27 GS, 13-9 record, 3.19 ERA, 1.23 WHIP
Look at that, Maddux put up a sub-3.00 ERA in his FIRST year as a pro, fresh out of high school. Maddux must have been getting that big strike zone ever since he was an 18 year old in the Appalachian league.