Originally Posted by TRF
wrong thinking BF.
fielding 8 "Adam Dunn's" will beat 8 "Juan Pierre's" nearly every time.
You said alot there TRF, let me just say yes, Dunn had a productive year last year - no disputing that. I didn't like the Ks but no disputing that 46 HRs and 34 doubles will help a team. No argument there.
And by not taking more walks and by not having all that great a success pct. with stealing, Pierre hurts his case.
Regardless, I have yet to see a well constructed convincing "stat-based" study concluding that Strikeouts are no different than other outs.
The Baseball Prospectus study/article http://www.baseballprospectus.com/a...?articleid=2617
has a nice Intro paragraph but the first/main study is BADLY flawed. It compares Strikeouts to Runs Scored but leaves hits, BBs, errors etc. etc...(all variables which affect Runs Scored) fluctuating.
Observation in game situations of the negative impact of "strikeouts" AND the Logic-Based, Conceptual, Cost-Benefit, Zero Sum gain etc.. etc... arguments against the Strikeout are much more convincing to me.