Originally Posted by MWM
Spare me the condescending remarks about me not being a fan. Lying to myself? I think I can judge that for myself, thanks.
My point was that 85 losses or 95 losses still means I'm watching someone else in October. What additional satisfaction to you get out of a 3rd place team instead of a 4th place team? i want the playoffs. That's how I measure wins and losses. 5 additional wins that have no impact on the playoffs mean absolutely nothing to me. If that makes me less a fan than Doog, so be it. Watch a .500 team for the rest of your life.
Not trying to be condescending, if I am, I apologize. I am merely saying that if at any point you want to become a contender, go to A from D, you need to hit C and B along the way. You want to attract free agents, show that you are a team that wins 85 instead of loses them first. Want to have a bigger budget, show the fans you are trying, and the Reds are improving from year to year. Whether or not the merits of long term and short term strategies are being executed properly are for us here to squabble over. The fact that a plan is in place to improve the team slightly year by year is the reality. 85? 95? 105? It matters to me, and probably to a lot of other people, hence the fan comment.
Now back to the earlier question, do you feel better about this team than any other in the past 5 years? I take Joe Randa's word for it, he was a prospective free agent that saw this team as one on the rise. Another year of improvement, and more are hopefully sure to follow.