Originally Posted by Steve4192
Not trying to be a pessimist, but do you remember Bobby Basham? He put up numbers that blew away anything Gardner posted, yet he currently resides on the 'suspect' list rather than a prospect list.
If Gardner can put up TWO good years in a row, then I'll get excited. Ditto for Pauly.
The thing about Basham was that he didn't put up good College numbers. He was like 0-7 with a 6 plus era. The Red flag for me was that the Reds completely redid his mechanics and all of the sudden he was a pitching stud. Most of the time when teams overhaul a players mechanics they end up with arm problems. That is why know DanO has the minor leagues just let the kids pitch and only make slight adjustments to their mechanics if it is really needed.
Another player that you knew was going to have arm problems was Howington. In HS early in the year he was hitting 97 mph with his fast ball but by the end of the year before the draft he was lucky to hit 91 mph. He and his agent blamed tired arm. The Reds took him any ways and thought that the could put him on a strengthening program but like normal with you kids it didn't work.
The interesting thing about Pauley was that in HS his fastball was only about 83 mph. Then his 1st year of college it was 86-88 and his Soph. year it was 89-92 and then his Jr year he started hitting 95.
I don't know if it is true or not but in most cases they say if you are pitching in the mid 90's in HS you will be pitching in the upper 80's to low 90's by the time your 24.
Question on Steve Kelly. I know he grew up around Cincy so does any one have a scouting report on him? I thought when he was drafted I read he threw around 93-95 mph. I also thought he would have be the first in his draft for the Reds to make it to the Pros at that time.