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Originally Posted by traderumor
Steel,
You forgot to post the performance in Heinz Field for Carson, I suppose since it didn't fit your line of arguing.
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From nfl.com:
10/23/05- Carson Palmer (Heinz Field)
22-38, 227 Yards- 3 TD, 0 INT, 101.5 Passer Rating.
Both the performances I posted were Carson Palmer versus the Steelers in the 2005 regular season. Both the good and the bad.
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I know you are trying real hard to come to the conclusion that the Squealers are simply the better team regardless of the injury.
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Nope. Simply noting that any assumption that includes the Bengals (Palmer or no) as being an auto-win scenario is well off-base, as is any assumption that Palmer would have been as perfect as needed to be worth 17 additional points.
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From what I can see, about the only thing I've agreed on with you is that these are two pretty even teams (I think it was you that said that), so it would seem that putting in a mediocre QB for nearly the entire game is going to have a significant impact on the rest of the game, regardless of how you try to explain away by "Kitna did great." Yea, for a half, everyone knows that. But it was obvious he didn't have what it took in round 2. But the Squealers just won the game straight up? Unfortunately, a DLman decided to make that not possible.
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Again, no. I'm simply noting that while Palmer is consistently excellent, the assumption that he would have been a certainty to surpass Kitna's performance is going to fall on deaf ears. First, nothing is a certainty. Ironic that I must type that in response to you of all people. Secondly, Palmer has been both excellent and awful against Pitt this season.
And, BTW- if I'd have jumped on the site and yelled and screamed about the thumb splint worn by Roethisberger last time they met "costing" the Steelers the game because of it turned him into a virtual copy of Jon Kitna, I'd have been lambasted as a first-order excuse-maker. Do you think the Bengals won the last regular season meeting straight-up? I do, regardless of the thumb injury. They couldn't overcome it. Them's the breaks.
You just saw a team that had two ten-point leads, muffed a FG, and gave up big plays all over the place. You saw a better version of Ben Roethisberger as well- a guy who actually did have the kind of game people are assuming Carson Palmer would have had. Cedric Wilson beat your secondary silly.
CEDRIC WILSON! GAH! Was that Kimo's fault as well? Kitna's? No. That was the Bengals defense being the Bengals defense. For some reason it reminds me of the Reds pitching. Hmn...