Originally Posted by RedsBaron
There is a rainbow coalition of players who have used steroids and other chemical enhancements, including Mark McGwire (white), Barry Bonds (black) and Rafael Palmiero (Hispanic), and I'm an equal opportunity fan--I wouldn't vote for any of them as Hall of Famers. If Jason Giambi and Ken Caminiti (both white) had career numbers that caused people to consider them for the HOF I wouldn't support them either.
1) Do you support Cap Anson for the HOF?
2) Do you support Kenesaw Mountain Landis for the HOF?
3) Do you support Charles Comiskey for the HOF?
4) Do you support Ty Cobb for the HOF?
5) Do you support Tris Speaker for the HOF?
6) Do you support Joe Jackson for the HOF?
7) Do you support Pete Rose for the HOF?
8) Do you support Gaylord Perry for the HOF?
9) Do you support Whitey Ford for the HOF?
This is all about historical perspective for me, RB.
The first two are largely responsible for shutting blacks out of the game. Heck, we could maybe even throw Ban Johnson and all those other racist executives in the pile with Anson and Landis. I don't know, people can call me crazy, but I'd say shutting out entire races of people in your sport for over a half century is a far worse crime than using steroids.
Charles Comiskey covered up a World Series fix. There's strong evidence that Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker were involved in fixing games. You know what Joe Jackson and Pete Rose are banned for. All are worse crimes than using steroids.
I really am curious as to your stance on all nine of the above guys. Because if you're shutting the door to steroid users, then I have to imagine you should be up in arms about wanting to shut the door to Jackson/Rose and also shut out the rest.
And for the record, RB, I'm not going to ask you those questions without also being willing to give you my answers. In order, my answers are no, no, no, yes, yes, currently undecided (Carney's book may help me decide on that), no, yes and yes.