Originally Posted by Cyclone792
Unless you have some other explanation for why the 500 home run club tripled in size during one of the greatest pitching eras of our time. It is hypocritical to believe that the last 10 years are stained while also not calling into question the records that were set 40 years ago when the same drug use was running wild throughout the game.
But people will blindly defend Willie Mays, Hank Aaron and their contemporaries no matter what.
Yep, that's me, blindly defending Mays and Aaron.
Cyclone, go back and read my post on the previous page. I'm defending no one and no behavior. That's your own concoction. But your position on this topic seems, to me at least, a bit unreasonable. You present a list of players who doctored balls, corked bats, threw spitters and did other unsavory things. You post an article describing the use of amphetamines in MLB, and present speculative evidence that steroid use was rampant in the 60s and 70s because more home runs were hit then.
Since when does past behavior and prior consequences dictate what can and cannot be said/done/believed about a particular individual? You act as if no one here has a right to be angry at people like McGwire, Bonds, Sosa, Palmeiro and (likely) many more for calling into question the integrity of the statistics they have put up, simply because we do not spew the same vitriol at Whitey Ford. I make no apoligies for my feelings on this issue, nor should anyone else. Whether everyone you have listed was juicing, whether every player in the history of the sport has been a rampant cheater whose records are fraudulent--I'm talking about the game today, and what should be done about it. So what if Mays juiced up, Jackson smeared stuff on his rear, and Aaron gave himself shots of fish tranquilizer? I wasn't alive during the era of the people you have mentioned and described, but I would like to think that an exposure of mass cheating in the majors during that time would have raised my ire as much as reports of the same do today. So knock off the hypocrite talk.
Like I wrote in my previous post, I have no interest in watching a game if the contest becomes who is capable of concocting the most inventive steroid formula. I want to see every effort made to ensure a clean game, from all participants. I'm not willing to grant leniancy or a free pass simply because players have knowingly gotten away with it in the past. Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Palmeiro et al. used steroids, those steroids helped them achieve record-breaking numbers and statistics, and I have no respect for them because of that. Enough said.