"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
If Carpenter isn't pitching this season, the Cardinals have the following rotation:
Adam Wainwright - can he return to All-Star status? will arm health be a concern?
Lance Lynn - was his post All-Star performance a sign of fatigue? was his first-half performance a fluke?
Jaime Garcia - solid lefty starter, but health is a big issue; rehabbing a shoulder injury
Jake Westbrook - has 200+ IP only once since 2007; can he keep enough batters off the base paths?
Joe Kelly - a less-talented version of Mike Leake; needs a solid defense behind him to be successful
Shelby Miller - elite talent--is he ready?
That's still pretty impressive. Losing Carpenter isn't crippling, but the depth would've sure come in handy when you consider the questionable health of Wainwright, Garcia, and Westbrook.
When the story about BP calling the Cards "whiny little *****es" and the reporter printed the story on the day of game 1 of that series I was doing some HATING of Brandon Phillips. When he came to bat the next night he tapped Yadi's shin guard to say 'hi' as a lot of players do. The whole Cardinals team got an earful after game 1 and it was fresh on teir mind. Yadi jumped up and said [lip reading here but it's not hard "I'm not your b****!" which started what all of us on both sides knew was going ot happen.
During the off-season between 2010 & 2011 I looked into what BP does on & off the field. I AM NOW A FAN OF HIS. He gives back and is truly just out there having fun, the way baseball is supposed to be played IMO.
I wish we had a 2B like BP & hope Kolton Wong can have something close to his ability. This 'rivalry' can be civilized if the fans want it to be. I do also agree with Mike Thierry that the Reds were not on the Cards radar before 2010, maybe 2009 I guess but in 2004-2006 the Astros were the threat, not the Reds.
Besides, beating up on the cubs is just old by now.
It seems to me that the Cards have lots of young pitching but they could really use a better #2 starter. Garcia has had shoulder problems . Westbrook is a BOR starter. Lynn's 2nd half was not as good as his 1rst half.I admit I don't know much about Kelly. It be nice for them if they had...
Garcia (if healthy)
Westbrook to eat innings.
that way if Gracia goes down they could go to one of the youngsters. as it is if Garcia goes down (again) and the youngsters struggle there is potential for an ugly season. however they do have the farm system to go out & get a starter midseason via trade.
Pay Joe Kelly a little respect though. HE is far and away more talented than Mike Leake.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Caveman Techie (02-06-2013)
On the plus side, I heard that Adam Wainwright is planning on working with Carpenter at Spring Training to get better at shouting when his teammates make mistakes.
Cincinnati Here We Go.
26 Years and Counting...
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